Source & Back Part Six

Ruth: I heard he wouldn't be talking, that we would communicate silently, telepathically to us, so maybe that's ...

Bestali: Well, he can communicate telepathically. He will be doing talking also, but he'll be communicating on many different levels. You might say if he was ... let's say he was talking to a big group ... maybe he's going to be communicating one thing while he's talking and maybe he's going to be communicating different things with different people on other telepathic levels and maybe some are going to be aware of it and some aren't. You'll know who he is when you see him.

Sandra: Why is Sedona the chosen place to start the New Age Christ Consciousness?

Bestali: Well, basically because it's kind of a nice place and it's going to have a nice climate after the earth changes. It's going to be kind of tropical. It seemed like a nice place to be. There's natural vortices. Everybody who's going to get involved in it ... well, for one thing it was decided that it needed to be on the other side of the world from where it was before, because you know there's a whole lot of hoopla about all... The Holy Land and all that...which is .. you know, all the land is holy. So, it was decided that if there was one place in the world who really needed the teaching it's this country. Of all the area that's going to be left of this country, it just seemed like a very natural power spot.

Sandra: So it's all of Arizona, not just Sedona?

Bestali: It's going to be near Sedona where he'll start his teaching, but he's going to be moving around a lot. He's going to be teaching all over the place. But that's where he's going to make his home.

Sherry: Seattle is also a vortex. Is it going to disappear or ...

Bestali: Oh yes. Seattle's going to disappear. This whole west coast will be gone. Yes, I really like Seattle. It's a nice place and that's why you all chose for it to be the place where you want to come and learn how to be teachers. Learn to remember what you already know. Because originally, and we talked about this the other time, that originally it was planned for Hawaii to be the number one teaching place. As things went on and everything, all the airplane fares and these things started to change. It became very apparent that a lot of people where not going to come up with the money to get to Hawaii. They needed to get there. So the group consciousness said, well Seattle's a nice place and we can use Mt. Rainier to our advantage to call people in, because Mt. Rainier is a great pulser of energy. So they've been using all the mountains you know. They've got Mt. Shasta also. They're all connected. So Mt. Rainier is putting out the message of, you know, come on up, everybody come up. Time to learn your teachings.

Roy: Except the Californians. (Laughter)

Sherry: When are the earth changes happening?

Bestali: Oh they're happening already.

Sherry: Well, the major ones ...

Bestali: The major one is going to be a few years ... about 1999 is when the major, major stuff is going to happen. Basically, we've said many times in this area, when Mt. Rainier blows it's time to move.

Sandra: Can you explain the different brotherhoods?

Bestali: You know the difference between, like let's say, the White Brotherhood and the Great White Brotherhood is, the White Brotherhood works more with individuals. They deal with, like let's say, counseling Higher Selves on maybe what kind of incarnation they want to experience next, to best progress their spirit. They are the ones who serve on the councils of thirteen... things like this, to help people evaluate the life they've just lived. They work with the individuals.

Now the Great White Brotherhood is more likely to work with the planet as a whole, working with the issues of what's best to protect the planet, what does the group consciousness want to create... things like that. Now within each of these brotherhoods, there's all kinds of little brotherhoods, and maybe it would be better if they changed the name to call them subcommittees or something, because they're already part of one big brotherhood which does various jobs. Like one subcommittee or whatever, are the ones who work on the Council of Thirteen. Another subcommittee might be people who specialize in counseling...Counseling people on the planet. There might be another subcommittee that deals specifically with people who are shaman on the planet or whatever, dealing with wayward souls... Things like this. There's a certain committee within the Great White Brotherhood that specifically are liaisons between the temporary hierarchy and the Angelic hierarchy. Within the Angelic hierarchies there's all kinds of little subcommittees of the different Devas and jobs that they do, all kinds of jobs that they do for the earth...nature spirits. Then there's people who are liaisons between the animal consciousness and the planet consciousness and the people, which is very needed because the people tromp all over everybody else, cutting down all the trees and taking away the animals.

Sandra: I have a question about that. I heard that we eventually will all be vegetarians? That right now we don't know enough to respect our animal counterparts?

Bestali: Well, basically, you know, the way I look at that is, it all comes down to the same thing no matter what you put in your body. You've got to have respect for it and us it in full. If you're going to eat plants that's wonderful. You need to treat them with care and treat them gently and ask them to offer themselves and be thankful for them and use as much of them as you can. Don't waste. It's true if you're going to eat animals as well. You know, the thing with the animals is people have always been part of the food chain. When there were dinosaurs on the planet, well the people were quite a little snack for the dinosaurs. They were kind of the top dogs. Now that there's no dinosaurs, the people don't have any natural predators. So they think that they can do whatever they want and that it's their planet. Now back when there were dinosaurs, the people had a lot more respect for life, because it could end at any moment by just getting chomped down. So there's nothing wrong with eating meat, if you want to eat meat, but do it in a respectful way. If you ask the animals to cooperate, they will. If the cows didn't want to be eaten, they would stop incarnating. You know, they know. They're not dumb. They know that they're going to be slaughtered and they know that they're not being treated in a very respectful way and they could have created fertility problems, and stopped incarnating, but they haven't. They have remained fertile and they have remained your nurturers because they care about you and they feel that that's part of what their role is on the planet, but it's important to always use all the parts. Don't waste the skins. Make drums with the skins. Use all the parts of the animal. That's a lesson you can learn from the Indians because the Indians, or the aboriginal people of this planet, they knew how to use all the parts. There's something worthwhile doing with every part of the animal, if you're going to use an animal life.

Sandra: I heard that there's something in the blood or flesh or something of an animal that's similar to drugs and alcohol that will infringe on a person's spirituality if the meditate or think ... like create a veil or blockage of some sort ...

Bestali: Oh no. That's not true.

Rolland: I was reading in the paper in the last day or so that scientists are discovering that frogs, various species of frogs throughout the world are disappearing ... would you comment on that.

Bestali: There's a lot of animals that are choosing not to incarnate now, because they don't want to experience the earth changes. Enough of them are going to stay around that they're not going to leave all together. But a lot of the consciousness doesn't feel that it's worth creating a bunch of new bodies now when they're just going to turn around and lose them anyway. So they're just kind of on hold for awhile. They'll come back. You see, that's one of the advantages with the sister planets is that the sister planet is Salina. With this planet having been created with part of the consciousness... The gift of consciousness from that planet, that planet is very similar and the animal life is very similar and you've made a deal between the hierarchies of the two planets, that if you have any animals on your planet that have a really difficult time recovering after the earth changes, they're going to bring in enough animals to repopulate.

Lori: Does that include ones that are extinct now?

Bestali: Some, yes. They're not going to bring any dinosaurs because they don't have any either, but they're going to bring back the white eagle. You've asked them to bring back the white eagle and that's going to return. They're probable going to have to help the dolphins and the whales because the oceans are going to have a really difficult time and the population is already thin with them. They've already been .... too many of them taken away for enough of them to survive to repopulate. Yes, lots of them are going to get some help.

Lois: Can I ask you ... you spoke one time about that after the earth changes that we were going to communicate with the animals ... on what level will that be? Will that be telepathic or ...

Bestali: Yes, some people already can do that. You can start learning that .. start learning now, the sooner you start learning the better, because it's still going to be a process.

John: How do you learn?

Bestali: Well, the best way when it comes to animals, is simply have one around and spend some time doing it, or like what I told Randy was good. Let's say a dog's asleep...Sit there and look at the dog and send it telepathic messages to wake up and come to you.

John: He won't come when I call him. Unless I've got food in my hand. (laughter)

Bestali: Oh, we talked about that too because we have talked about that if it doesn't come when it's called out loud, it's not going to come telepathically.

John: I'll think food then, that'll get through to him.

Bestali: Yes, wake up and get some food. Send the message wake up and get some food.

Randy: A lot of times, he told me also, that even though he doesn't come, he may turn and look at you and that will be his way of saying "yeah, I hear you, but I'm going to ignore you anyway".

John: Then I'll think twice as much food. I'll work on that.

Sandra: They won't be mad at you cause you eat them, will they? I mean the cows or something.

Bestali: Oh no. You see, they offer their life. What the difference with people is, is that all the other animals, if you watch all the other animals they respect what's going on within the other species. They go after the animals that are old and they go after the animals that are starting to get sick. They can't keep up any more and the people don't have any respect for that. You know, you go out hunting for deer and what do you want? You want the one, the biggest, strongest one with the biggest horns. But that's the one that needs to mate. That's the one that needs to reproduce the species. A lot of times, if you really need food and you're really hungry, if you tell the animal consciousness please, somebody offer me something, I need something. They're going to come to you. They're going to offer. You need to treat plants with equal respect. You know everybody thinks, well we're treating the animals so bad we all need to be vegetarians and they just go rip plants out of the ground like that doesn't hurt. They have equal amount of feeling to any animal. They're just as much God.

Sandra: Do you apologize first? Then take them out?

John: Please come to dinner with me... (Laughter)

Sherry: Are all plants and animals group consciousness?

Bestali: Not all animals. There are some types of animals who are individual entities just like people. The whales, the dolphins, and the gorillas are examples. They are all individual entities that have their own karmic wheel.

Rolland: How about the bears, or anything like that?

Bestali: The bears are individual entities in a group consciousness, they're kind of in between. They don't ever separate from their group consciousness, but they do have an individual identity and will. One part of the consciousness will reincarnate as a bear many times in a row before it comes back to the consciousness. Kind of like the consciousness is one big Higher Self. It creates little potentials that can live more than one life before it comes back. Now the dolphins are the most advanced species on the planet. It's only man that thinks they are because they're the most arrogant species on the planet. That's why the insects are over populating to annoy you.

Ida:> Are you saying that they're more advanced than man?

Bestali: Yes.

John: They don't have television. (Laughter)

Ida: Will we figure out their language?

Bestali: Oh yes. You'll figure out how to communicate with them. They have lots to teach.

Ellen: This is changing the subject a bit, but there's a man over in Switzerland by the name of Billy Meyer who has had contact with the entities from the Pleiades and he says that he's been taken on board their ships and he speaks with them and they tell him a lot about the planet and what's coming up. Now is this really true?

Bestali: Yes, there are many entities here from the Pleiades. They only have the right to observe and if he's been taken up on the ship then he's one of them.

Ellen: Are we going to be seeing a lot more of them?

Bestali: Yes. There's lots of aliens on the planet right now.

Ellen: Are any of them going to land and lift off some people of their own when the changes occur?

Bestali: Some will, yes. They won't take any of the earth people or the people who are choosing to incarnate, but they will take their own, like Pentalites will take ... but only when necessary. Let's say like at the time of the earth changes maybe there's going to be a few Pentalites who have chosen to stay in this area until the last minute to try to raise the consciousness of as many souls as possible to make their transition easier. Then those people will probably get picked up and dropped off. But only, you know, if it's necessary and only if it's their people.

Ellen: If there are so many alien beings up there in spaceships watching and seeing what's going to happen, I would think that a lot more of them would become involved.

Bestali: Oh, they don't have the right to. They only have the right to observe.

Ellen: Even if we request their help?

Bestali: Well, you have requested the help of some and those are the ones that are here. The rest of them are just observing. Some of them, you see, some of them are not that far advanced from you. They've advanced to the point where they have the technology to go in space, but they're not any more spiritually advanced and they're not really going to be of much help. So they're just watching... curious.

Rolland: Are there universal truths?

Bestali: From my perspective I think there are. (Laughter)

Rolland: What are they?

Bestali: That might be a subject for another day. (Laughter) It's quite a long list and whether or not they're true or not is dependent upon your perspective.

Joan: Bestali, when you talk about this planet being an experiment, what made it different say than the normal progression of planet ... what makes it experimental?

Bestali: Well, some of what makes it experimental is the type of density. The type of ... like the land, the type of... like mountains and the seas and the various species of animals. New species of animals are coming up all the time. New forms, for man to live in, are coming up all the time...All kinds of things that make it an experiment. About one in every ten planets or so that get created is a brand new experiment.

Joan: People are just sort of allowed to create whatever they want to create?

Bestali: Yes.

Joan: And is that different than other planets?

Bestali: Some planets are made in the mold of others and other planets they just ... you see the difference with an experimental planet also would be ... the new planet, the consciousness being birthed, from this planet that's going to create the next planet, will sort of be in the mold of this one, as far as how it looks. An experimental planet is a brand new consciousness being born. It's not a mold from another planet. So it can be made into anything. You have lots of fun doing that. Only sometimes, like this one, this one's kind of gotten messed up worse than any of the other experiments. Earth is a combination of half new consciousness and half consciousness from Salina. Kind of a double experiment.

Joan: Why? What went wrong?

Bestali: Well, Lucifer and Satan got in there and created all kinds of trouble for one. They created all this stuff about original sin and all this kind of things, all these fears. This planet has more fear than any other planet that I've ever seen. Everybody is afraid of everything.

Lori: The Lakota Nation, the Sioux culture had in their legends that they originated on the north American continent and that they came from the Pleiades, is that true?

Bestali: Well, there have been many different times that space entities have come down and created civilizations, but that doesn't mean that the whole line of the civilization is from the Pleiades. It may have just been the first few people that started the civilization. There have been many civilizations similar to that, many situations similar to that where the aliens have come down and started a small civilization of people to serve as an example. They came down to give you good examples. To say "well, look how our village works. You know, we're working together, we're serving as a community." They're trying to teach you by example and then you ignore it. This planet is famous for ignoring examples. Although you're real good at taking the bad examples. It's cause the bad ones are easier. There's a lot more work to aspire towards the good examples. A lot of times on this planet you like to take the easy way out, only you don't find out until you get back to spirit that it wasn't the easy way out. So you've just made it more difficult. But when you look at it from the positive perspective ... here you are, you've chosen to incarnate on this crazy planet. When you finally get all done, and you get done with this planet, boy... You're going to have a really great resume. (Laughter) you're going to go across the universe and they're going to say "oh boy, you did your whole time on that crazy planet? (Laughter) You must have learned your lessons really good." So you kind of bought yourself a ticket to get in any job that you want.

Lois: Is there dark energy on other planets or just here on earth?

Bestali: On every planet that has the karmic system and the density that this planet has, had a certain amount of dark energy and it's a natural progression of the evolution of the planet to eventually shed itself of the dark energy. That's where your planet's trying to get to. Now, you see, the dark energy would just like to have a dark planet where they could be. There's a lot of entities on the planet that say "Oh let them have it, we'll go incarnate someplace else", but the problem with that is that the planet itself is an entity who is very, very light... a very light entity. She is not willing for this to be a dark planet. If we all just gave up and said "well, let it be a dark planet". she would destroy herself. Rather than let it be a dark planet.

Sherry: Then what is the purpose of dark energy?

Bestali: Well, there really isn't a purpose. All that dark energy is, is when you forget the light...you lose sight of the light. You start to slowly, little bit by little bit, get separated. So it doesn't have a purpose, it just happens. Ultimately, the goal is to bring it all back to the light.

John: So it could go back to that. Even if it got back to the light, it could go back to a dark energy?

Bestali: Well, if it got back to the light ... you can go back and forth. There are entities who have been light, dark, light, dark, light, dark. They've remembered, they've forgotten, they've remembered, they've forgotten.

Rolland: Why did we forget?

Bestali: Because, you've gotten caught up in earth plane experiences. Things that have happened to you, that have gotten you caught up in anger and all this negative emotions, are all darkness. After you go through many, many lifetimes in a row of getting caught up in a lot of that you start to forget your connection.

I think we actually talked about the whole thing huh? Because we talked about returning to the Source at the beginning. So I guess we did a circle.

So anybody got any last minute questions on anything else they want to ask?

All right. Well, this has been fun. I had a good time.

All: Thank You